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but this will be the first couple of months of pope benedict's requirement. it is actually a space that is larger than vatican city itself. when you're on the ground, you see a facade and it doesn't look enormous. but it is a place that he has found particularly comforting in the summer. in fact there is a plaque in the town square and it quotes him from 2011 when he said here i found everything, mountains, a lake and i can even see the sea and good people. and ann, we are expecting some 8,000 people to be waiting for him at castle gandolpho? >> yes, he will be there, and he will make what we are told unscripted remarks and those will be the last remarks of his public life. i think that's one thing that benedict tried to make clear today is that this is the end of his public life. he is going to lead a different kind of life in a different kind of service to god. and he spoke yesterday when he gave his final public speech, or what we thought was his final public speech. he talked got how the pope haas no privacy. i really thought that that was fascinating, th
but this will be the first couple of months of pope benedict's requirement. it is actually a space that is larger than vatican city itself. when you're on the ground, you see a facade and it doesn't look enormous. but it is a place that he has found particularly comforting in the summer. in fact there is a plaque in the town square and it quotes him from 2011 when he said here i found everything, mountains, a lake and i can even see the sea and good people. and ann, we are expecting some 8,000...
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it says thank you benedict, we are all with you. it shows the support of this town that has strong tice with the vatican and especially with popes for the last 500 years. the pope have chosen castel gandolfo and the summer residence behind me as the summer residence of choice to find solace during roman summers. when they come here, they're away from crying eyes of the vatican and this is where they can really relax. there's a huge botanical garden he here. beautiful vistas over a lake, down below, down the slopes. pope benedict xvi will start from here his disappearance from public eye, if you may put it in h those words. this is where we'll start getting away from public eye and just putting the attention back to the vatican, to the new pope, when he will be elected. back to you, mara. >> claudio, thank you so much for that. >>> we're going to bring anne thompson back for final thoughts. do you have any final thoughts as we observe this historic moment for the church? >> mara, you know, i have covered the death of a pope, i have c
it says thank you benedict, we are all with you. it shows the support of this town that has strong tice with the vatican and especially with popes for the last 500 years. the pope have chosen castel gandolfo and the summer residence behind me as the summer residence of choice to find solace during roman summers. when they come here, they're away from crying eyes of the vatican and this is where they can really relax. there's a huge botanical garden he here. beautiful vistas over a lake, down...
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we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had something of a down day. there's packing to be done. there are papers to be gone through. there are decisions to be made. and he will be going to castel gandolfo, which is the summer residence of the pope, where he will stay until a more permanent residence is finished. they have been doing renovations on the old monastery on the grounds of the vatican. he's someone, liz, who really -- it's not a job that he can go home at 5:00, and he puts his little time card in, and it ends. this is a man who for the last eight years, when most people would want to be retiring
we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had...
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that's pope benedict xvi gone. that was the shocking part. that he didn't make a big deal out of it. >> as we understand it, he is iffing to vacate the office. he will abdicate at the end of the month, which is february 28, of course, and then the college of cardinals will convene. claudio, he has apointed a mof cardinals, so it is a full group of cardinals that will be making this critical decision. >> indeed. in a way if you look back at what happened in the last year or two years of his pontificate, he seemed like he had this at the back of his mind for a while now because he has come out with a number of surprised -- it's when you create new cardinals to hype up and increase the number of cardinals that will go to the sistine chapel to elect a new pope. you think was he already thinking about abdicating back then? there are cardinals that will be eligible to elect a new pope at the end of february. well, who comes next? we don't know. >> and one person who knows the inside story is greg burke. i think we have you on the lean now. the vati
that's pope benedict xvi gone. that was the shocking part. that he didn't make a big deal out of it. >> as we understand it, he is iffing to vacate the office. he will abdicate at the end of the month, which is february 28, of course, and then the college of cardinals will convene. claudio, he has apointed a mof cardinals, so it is a full group of cardinals that will be making this critical decision. >> indeed. in a way if you look back at what happened in the last year or two years...
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by tomorrow evening, that ring will be one of the last things that pope benedict divests himself us as he leaves the papacy, that ring, and all of the ring before will be destroyed. >> destroyed using a silver papal hammer and there will be no ring until the conclave and the election of a new pope, it was very interesting that here in new york our cardinal dolan said that he and other cardinals will sing a psalm as they file into the sistine chapel. and is that something that's typical, liz, is that traditional, or is that unique to this conclave? >> i think in particular, these psalm of pent nance is part of the lenten a framework. but, also, it's part of the sistine chapel proper. indeed, as you look at the ceiling, the very last images the very last prophet, then you get to that resurrection of joan in the center. it's fitting for the time, it's fitting for the space and it's fitting for this particular occasion as well. >> let me bring ann thompson back in. you were saying earlier that the pope won't do what's traditional at many of these audiences which is to allow a number of fai
by tomorrow evening, that ring will be one of the last things that pope benedict divests himself us as he leaves the papacy, that ring, and all of the ring before will be destroyed. >> destroyed using a silver papal hammer and there will be no ring until the conclave and the election of a new pope, it was very interesting that here in new york our cardinal dolan said that he and other cardinals will sing a psalm as they file into the sistine chapel. and is that something that's typical,...
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you had in john paul and in b benedict, they were extraordinary teachers. but they will be looking for someone who is more of a governor. >> you hear the cardinals say there's a sense of -- there's a strong desire to have a new pope as soon as possible. but for that to happen in the most prudent, enlightened way, we need some sort of prayer and reelection of getting to know each other. >> there are a lot of these cardinals who were appointed by pope benedict, who don't know each other very well, you remember that this is a worldwide church and you also have a church in the united states that's very different in some of the area where is it's growing in latin america, in africa, where frankly the people in the church tend to be more conservative. it creates almost an inevitable conflict, doesn't it. >> i wouldn't say that people in the church in latin america and in africa tend to be more conservative. the growth of the church absolutely is in the third world. one of the things that happens at a papal conclave is that the cardinals begin discussions with eac
you had in john paul and in b benedict, they were extraordinary teachers. but they will be looking for someone who is more of a governor. >> you hear the cardinals say there's a sense of -- there's a strong desire to have a new pope as soon as possible. but for that to happen in the most prudent, enlightened way, we need some sort of prayer and reelection of getting to know each other. >> there are a lot of these cardinals who were appointed by pope benedict, who don't know each...
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i'm joined by monsignor anthony firerero, the personal assistant to pope benedict xiv. good to -- he always wants to give fully of himself, and certainly spoke with great courage and wisdom, but certainly he did look frail to myself and to the other priests who were with my. for the reasons he gives, as looking at that health, he doesn't feel he is able to carry the church forward at this time, so it's a very brave and courageous decision i think he's made. >> there was an indication from the spokesperson at the vatican, that he only learned of this shortly before the announcement was made to the assembled cardinals, though people closest to the pope had known for several weeks and obviously they have begun to do some planning. what happens next? >> well, i think it really was a secret that the holy father has kept. i don't think he wanted to throw the church or anyone into confusion and turmoil. certainly it's an agonizing decision. the hole father will resign officially on february 28th at 8:00 p.m. rome time, and at that point a conclave will be called for the electi
i'm joined by monsignor anthony firerero, the personal assistant to pope benedict xiv. good to -- he always wants to give fully of himself, and certainly spoke with great courage and wisdom, but certainly he did look frail to myself and to the other priests who were with my. for the reasons he gives, as looking at that health, he doesn't feel he is able to carry the church forward at this time, so it's a very brave and courageous decision i think he's made. >> there was an indication from...
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you know, benedict is mr. inside and his election, first of all, there were so many reasons why it was sort of doubtful, he was an unlikely choice. likely but unlikely in 2005. election was made possible by rules change that pope john paul ii put in place in 1996 and took the old super jorkt with two thirds of the cardinals to agree an they have as many ballots it took and he said after 30 ballots, a mere 30 ballots, majority rule wins and when somebody gets a majority, end the process because the majority hangs on and then win and probably enabled benedict to win in 2005. almost unanimous and four ballots and that's it. he did away with the rules change and so we have reverted the two thirds majority and it's the only way that pope john paul ii would have become the pope. there was sort of two candidates duking it out and he was the compromise choice and the unlikely, nobody thought him, polish guy with a chance. and he emerged as the consensus candidate. the compromise candidate. back to that process now whe
you know, benedict is mr. inside and his election, first of all, there were so many reasons why it was sort of doubtful, he was an unlikely choice. likely but unlikely in 2005. election was made possible by rules change that pope john paul ii put in place in 1996 and took the old super jorkt with two thirds of the cardinals to agree an they have as many ballots it took and he said after 30 ballots, a mere 30 ballots, majority rule wins and when somebody gets a majority, end the process because...
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catholic stephen colbert is eyeing the window. >> benedict is out on february 28th. the calls of cardinals may not elect a new cardinal until the end of march. do you realize what this means? we could have an entire month without no infallible person on planet earth. there will be no rules. it will be like a catholic free for all passing out pez dispensers full of birth control pills, using the lord's name in vain, killing anybody you want. it will be like being a presbyteri presbyterian. >> all right. still ahead on "way too early," why are you possibly awake right now? your tweets, e-mails and texts are next and "morning joe" live from the capital with gentlemen scarborough himself just moments away. so if you have a flat tire, dead battery, need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you thi
catholic stephen colbert is eyeing the window. >> benedict is out on february 28th. the calls of cardinals may not elect a new cardinal until the end of march. do you realize what this means? we could have an entire month without no infallible person on planet earth. there will be no rules. it will be like a catholic free for all passing out pez dispensers full of birth control pills, using the lord's name in vain, killing anybody you want. it will be like being a presbyteri presbyterian....
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something benedict has done in the last couple of weeks. he has been doing things more off the cuff. this was a scripted speech, but as i said an unexpected speech. it had a very pointed message. there is a lot of speculation about how the vatican will deal with two popes. tonight there will be a new pope elected. benedict made it clear that his unconditional reverence goes to the next pope. that was his attempt to turn down the speculation about who will be in charge of the catholic church when he retires. i spoke to a lot of people who know him and many vatican watchers of a long, long time say this is a man who did not want to be pope. he is giving it up because he physically doesn't feel he can do it anymore. when he said he is going into a life of prayer and meditation, he means it. he will not meddle with the new guy. chuck? >> a story we will follow all morning long. something you only see once every 600 years. we will be back with you. let's come back to this side of the ocean. we are coming to the end. tomorrow barring something un
something benedict has done in the last couple of weeks. he has been doing things more off the cuff. this was a scripted speech, but as i said an unexpected speech. it had a very pointed message. there is a lot of speculation about how the vatican will deal with two popes. tonight there will be a new pope elected. benedict made it clear that his unconditional reverence goes to the next pope. that was his attempt to turn down the speculation about who will be in charge of the catholic church...
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but benedict xvi is the teacher that makes you work hard. you have to look up the words in the dictionary. you have to do a little extra homework. but he's the teacher that, when you gives you a lesson, it takes root. you keep thinking this is the greatest, greatest class i've ever taken. i look at this day with a tremendously bittersweet feeling of i'm going to miss you so much, but at the same time wondering that that class has been wonderful. he's taught us a tremendous amount. and that what he has given us will continue to grow. >> george, give us your take on today. we're told he's not going to be diverting too much in what is normal in an audience. there will be bible passages, and then he will give what is essentially a christian message, a homily, as ann pointed out, in italian, and then he will give it in several other languages. what's your expectation? >> benedict xvi is a man of the bible. he's a brilliant expositor of the bible. the church is right in the middle of lent, the most serious pen tential season of the church's church
but benedict xvi is the teacher that makes you work hard. you have to look up the words in the dictionary. you have to do a little extra homework. but he's the teacher that, when you gives you a lesson, it takes root. you keep thinking this is the greatest, greatest class i've ever taken. i look at this day with a tremendously bittersweet feeling of i'm going to miss you so much, but at the same time wondering that that class has been wonderful. he's taught us a tremendous amount. and that what...
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pope benedict the xvith is a man of conscious. if you read the statement that he made today at the consistery he said he prayed over this and he had come to the view that he could no longer give the church the service it required and tlf as may 28th, at 8:00 p.m., the seat is to be vacated and that means that the college of cardinals should proceed to elect a new pope. as claudio said a moment ago, it is a surprise as to timing but not a surprise to fact. benedict xvith on several occasions and most recently in the book "light of the world" indicated if he ever came to the conscientious view that he couldn't give the church what the church deserved, then he would step out of the way. this is a man of real humility here, we have to say. >> and it is clear that he decided to put the best interests of the church ahead of himself when you read that statement, and you can't help but take away that fact. so he, himself, seems to be saying, sending a message to the college of cardinals that you need somebody younger, and you need somebod
pope benedict the xvith is a man of conscious. if you read the statement that he made today at the consistery he said he prayed over this and he had come to the view that he could no longer give the church the service it required and tlf as may 28th, at 8:00 p.m., the seat is to be vacated and that means that the college of cardinals should proceed to elect a new pope. as claudio said a moment ago, it is a surprise as to timing but not a surprise to fact. benedict xvith on several occasions and...
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pope benedict filled people's hearts. he was a theologian. so now, what i think we need is somehow who allows people to take what they have received and now use it in their lives for the good of others. >> monsignor, thank you for coming over. liz lev, thank you, they will be staying with us and we'll be talking to them later on in this program. >>> the other big story, back in the states, tonight's state of the union address. where the president is expected to focus on the economy. and here's what senior adviser valerie jarrett said this morning. >> he will demonstrate concretely how we have to of invest in manufacturing, making the united states a magnet for job growth, preparing our workforce, and making sure that if you work hard, you can earn a good living. and he will lay out very specifically how we want to accomplish that. >> i want to bring in congressman tom cole, a republican from oklahoma, and also a member of the house appropriations committee. congressman, good morning. we don't have the details yet, of course, but when you hear
pope benedict filled people's hearts. he was a theologian. so now, what i think we need is somehow who allows people to take what they have received and now use it in their lives for the good of others. >> monsignor, thank you for coming over. liz lev, thank you, they will be staying with us and we'll be talking to them later on in this program. >>> the other big story, back in the states, tonight's state of the union address. where the president is expected to focus on the...
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i really believe pope benedict managed the church well. he's saying i want someone there who is going to take this forward with that kind of ability. that's why he was so courageous and so brave to step down. he's saying these are the problems that face us. e he said in that statement, chris, rapid changes, new issues, and so let's find a person who can deal with those. >> it's great of both of you to come over. it's going to be busy around here. >>> this morning sources tell nbc news that the body found in the burned out cabin in southern california appears to be that of fugitive christopher dorner. dorner barricaded himself inside that cabin yesterday after a shootout that left one deputy dead and another wounded. a man whose car was stolen by the fugitive told "the today show" about that face to face meeting. >> he came up do me with his gun pointed at me. i stopped my truck, put it in park and he said i don't want to hurt you. just get out and start walking down the road, which is what i did. >> joining me from big bear is miguel almag
i really believe pope benedict managed the church well. he's saying i want someone there who is going to take this forward with that kind of ability. that's why he was so courageous and so brave to step down. he's saying these are the problems that face us. e he said in that statement, chris, rapid changes, new issues, and so let's find a person who can deal with those. >> it's great of both of you to come over. it's going to be busy around here. >>> this morning sources tell nbc...
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pope benedict xvi is stepping down today. this morning the 85-year-old pontiff is spending a few moments exchanging words with the cardinals before he heads out on a helicopter to the papal residence south of rome. >>> all right, now to developments on the civil war in syria, roughly about an hour from now, secretary of state john kerry is expected to announce a u.s. policy shift when it comes to aiding the rebels. kerry is in rome for an international conference aimed at dealing with the conflict. for the first time obama administration plans to offer nonlethal assistance in syria. the reports say that the aid package could include body armor, communication equipment, night vision gear and vehicles. the white house however is stopping short of providing weapons. senator marco rubio of florida, has a slightly different take on how the u.s. should help. >> there are plenty of weapons in syria. they're coming from other countries. . what the opposition really needs is access to ammunition. one thing that we can consider, is if
pope benedict xvi is stepping down today. this morning the 85-year-old pontiff is spending a few moments exchanging words with the cardinals before he heads out on a helicopter to the papal residence south of rome. >>> all right, now to developments on the civil war in syria, roughly about an hour from now, secretary of state john kerry is expected to announce a u.s. policy shift when it comes to aiding the rebels. kerry is in rome for an international conference aimed at dealing with...
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we have seen pope benedict sort of ad lib his final day. he wasn't supposed to make a speech to the cardinals today, and he decided to make that speech. anybody who is wondering how catholic church would deal with a pope and a pope ameritus, he made it very clear that he is going to step back, step away from power, he is going to live a life of prayer and meditation. that was the first thing. the second thing i was struck by was watching him at castle gondolpho and when he came out on to the balcony, and it's the first time i've ever seen him without a prepared text in front of him, and just spoke from his heart, and he said, you know, i'm no longer pope. i am now a pilgrim on the last stage of my journey. he has always been a very humble man, known as the man who was a reluctant pope. he wanted to retire when he worked for john paul ii, asked him, john 35u8 ii, would not let that happen. he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, a
we have seen pope benedict sort of ad lib his final day. he wasn't supposed to make a speech to the cardinals today, and he decided to make that speech. anybody who is wondering how catholic church would deal with a pope and a pope ameritus, he made it very clear that he is going to step back, step away from power, he is going to live a life of prayer and meditation. that was the first thing. the second thing i was struck by was watching him at castle gondolpho and when he came out on to the...
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we will see pope benedict publicly two more times. once he will come to the window on sunday and then on the 27th, the day before he officially steps down, there will be thousands if not tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people filling st. peter's here because there will be an outdoor celebration of his final days as pope. i was just inside st. peter's basilica, it is wednesday night as i'm taping this, standing ovation for the pope, a lot of emotion for ash wednesday. he received and gave ashes also received and gave communion. but it was at the end when one of the cardinals talked about his service to the church that people stood for many minutes applauding. i have some americans here who just happened to be in rome right now who were at this mass, as well. >> for me, it was the first time i'd seen the pope and it was definitely emotional. i didn't expect to have such -- him to impact me the way he did and it was an amazing experience. >> we also -- and by the way, all midwesterners, right? from indiana, chicago. we have oh
we will see pope benedict publicly two more times. once he will come to the window on sunday and then on the 27th, the day before he officially steps down, there will be thousands if not tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people filling st. peter's here because there will be an outdoor celebration of his final days as pope. i was just inside st. peter's basilica, it is wednesday night as i'm taping this, standing ovation for the pope, a lot of emotion for ash wednesday. he received and...
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pope benedict xvi represents the end of an era. the last pope to have intended the second vatican council, whose great work to turn the church toward the future and toward a missionary vocation. so the question is, wherever this man comes from, can he give the church of the 21st century a vibrant missionary face? the second reck question sit it seems to me is the reform of the catholic -- it was expected pope xvi working in the bureaucracy for 23 years would take and hand the reform. he's decided to leave that to his successor and the successor will have to do some serious work in the reform so that it becomes an instrument of evangelism. not an impediment to the pope's message. >> father, lastly, it is incredible that very few people knew this news including the spokesperson for the pope. and george, talk about modernizing and moving ahead. we know that john paul greatly embraced young people. it was a joy for many to see this pope go on twitter of all things and actually have a twitter account as incredible as that is. when you t
pope benedict xvi represents the end of an era. the last pope to have intended the second vatican council, whose great work to turn the church toward the future and toward a missionary vocation. so the question is, wherever this man comes from, can he give the church of the 21st century a vibrant missionary face? the second reck question sit it seems to me is the reform of the catholic -- it was expected pope xvi working in the bureaucracy for 23 years would take and hand the reform. he's...
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benedict announced his title will be pope ameritus and said he will not return to private life. the last pope to abdicate, 719 years ago, had a much rockier departure. he was imprisoned until his death and is thought to be depicted in daunty's inferno as a cowardly shadow in hell. >> preparations are completed at an 8,000 square foot monastery near st. peters. for the catholic church and the within in seven people worldwide who are members of it, the attention now turns to their next leader, namely who will he be and perhaps of equal importance, where will he come from? the past century has shown dramatic changes in the worldwide catholic population. while 65% of the catholic population lived in europe in 1910, that figure has now dropped to 24%, and as the number of catholics actually sh links in europe each year, it is growing rapidly in other parts of the world. the largest share of catholics, 39%, now live in latin america, and in the last century catholic simple in africa has grown dramatically. less than 1% of the church's worldwide membership to 16% in the past eight year
benedict announced his title will be pope ameritus and said he will not return to private life. the last pope to abdicate, 719 years ago, had a much rockier departure. he was imprisoned until his death and is thought to be depicted in daunty's inferno as a cowardly shadow in hell. >> preparations are completed at an 8,000 square foot monastery near st. peters. for the catholic church and the within in seven people worldwide who are members of it, the attention now turns to their next...
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following the resignation of pope benedict xvi. the man who will in a minute no longer lead the church. this is his temporary home. we expect to see something that's always followed the death of a pope. the swiss guard both beloved tradition and entrusted with the very real job of protecting the pope will stand down. once he is no longer pope, their job is done. and they will await the election of a new pope. covering this historic event along with me, claudio lavanga is live. also with us, elizabeth lev and father john bartunic, author and priest based in rome. claudio, a crowd gathered as we saw earlier today when the pope came out on to the balcony and saw him publicly as pope for the last time. >> reporter: that's right. that's right, chris. there are still people here to witness that historic moment that will mark the real end of the pontifficate of pope benedict xvi. the church bells started to ring. take a look at you are at that door. the summer residence of the pope. those doors in literally 30 seconds or a minute are goin
following the resignation of pope benedict xvi. the man who will in a minute no longer lead the church. this is his temporary home. we expect to see something that's always followed the death of a pope. the swiss guard both beloved tradition and entrusted with the very real job of protecting the pope will stand down. once he is no longer pope, their job is done. and they will await the election of a new pope. covering this historic event along with me, claudio lavanga is live. also with us,...
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benedict leaves behind a church marred by sexual abuse. his own legacy tainted by questions surrounding his role in the cover-up of that abuse. a new hbo documentary tells the story of one of the most notorious sexual abuse cases in the catholic church. according to the court and church documents, father lawrence murphy, a headmaster at a school for the deaf in wisconsin raped and molested as many as 200 deaf boys throughout the '50s, '60s and '70s. decades later one of murphy's victims, terry kohut filed a lawsuit against the vatican naming pope benedict, previously northern as cardinal ratzinger as a defendant. as cardinal ratzinger served as the head of the powerful congregation for the doctrine of the faith, an office known in earlier years as the inquisition. church records indicate ratzinger was aware of father murphy's abuse, yet murphy remained a priest until his death in 1998. of course, murphy was just the tip of the iceberg. in fact, as the documentary reports, from 2001 on, every single priest sexual abuse case came directly to
benedict leaves behind a church marred by sexual abuse. his own legacy tainted by questions surrounding his role in the cover-up of that abuse. a new hbo documentary tells the story of one of the most notorious sexual abuse cases in the catholic church. according to the court and church documents, father lawrence murphy, a headmaster at a school for the deaf in wisconsin raped and molested as many as 200 deaf boys throughout the '50s, '60s and '70s. decades later one of murphy's victims, terry...
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pope benedict xvi has now moved up the date of the conclave to gather to elect his successor. as another cardinal is still touched by the continuing sex abuse scandal. nbc's ann thompson joins me from rome with more details. first of all, the timing of the conclave, i know the rules allow the cardinals to move it up. what is he saying? when do you think this will begin? >> that's a good question, andrea. despite the pope's actions today, we still don't know when the conclave will exactly start. what the pope did today is give the cardinals the permission to move up the start date with this provico, that all the cardinal electors, all those cardinals under the age of 80 that will vote for the next pope have to be here to decide on the new start date. so the cardinals will start gathering on march 1st, the day after benedict retires, and perhaps they will take a vote, make a decision either march 1st or march 2nd. right now the early date seems to be march 10th, but it's just a guess. nobody is really sure when this conclave is going to get started, and it's very frustrating to
pope benedict xvi has now moved up the date of the conclave to gather to elect his successor. as another cardinal is still touched by the continuing sex abuse scandal. nbc's ann thompson joins me from rome with more details. first of all, the timing of the conclave, i know the rules allow the cardinals to move it up. what is he saying? when do you think this will begin? >> that's a good question, andrea. despite the pope's actions today, we still don't know when the conclave will exactly...
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what happens to benedict in this period and immediately afterwards, george? >> reporter: he's continuing his normal daily routine. tomorrow morning at moon here behind me in st. peter's square he will have his week lly addre to what i expect to be tens of thousands of people pack flood the square. the vatican bureaucracy and the pope are going on retreat beginning tomorrow night and until next saturday morning. and then it will be just a few brief days before the pope's advocation takes effect. he's already announced he will go to the papal summer residence southeast of rome for an unspecific period of time before returning to live quietly and privately in what has been up until now a convent of cloistered sisters on the back side of the vatican at the end of the vatican garden. >> george, as you well know, there have been increasing demands to modernize this church. do you think pope benedict's successor will yield to these calls for any sort of structural reform? does the fact that this pope -- is doing something that was last under resigning as opposed to
what happens to benedict in this period and immediately afterwards, george? >> reporter: he's continuing his normal daily routine. tomorrow morning at moon here behind me in st. peter's square he will have his week lly addre to what i expect to be tens of thousands of people pack flood the square. the vatican bureaucracy and the pope are going on retreat beginning tomorrow night and until next saturday morning. and then it will be just a few brief days before the pope's advocation takes...
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when pope benedict xvi announced today that he would resign as pope, that he would abdicate the papacy, the move was greeted, frankly, with shock that something that has not happened in 600 years is happening right now. but it was also clear immediately that even though nothing like this has happened in 600 years, or 598 years to be exact, the catholic church nevertheless had a plan ready to go. even though no pope has resigned his seat since the year 1415, and this resignation announcement today from pope benedict was totally unexpected, despite all of that, there is apparently an agreed upon protocol for what happens in an instance like this. once pope benedict leaves the vatican on february 28th, the church says he will go live for a while in castel gandolfo, which is the pope's summer house in a small town outside of rome. he will live at that castle while construction work is done on a cloistered monastery inside the vatican complex. then when the construction is done, he will move back into the vatican. and living in that cloistered monastery, provided that papal cloistering is l
when pope benedict xvi announced today that he would resign as pope, that he would abdicate the papacy, the move was greeted, frankly, with shock that something that has not happened in 600 years is happening right now. but it was also clear immediately that even though nothing like this has happened in 600 years, or 598 years to be exact, the catholic church nevertheless had a plan ready to go. even though no pope has resigned his seat since the year 1415, and this resignation announcement...
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person after person that i have spoken to feels that the curia has really done a disservice to pope benedict xvi, and i think what was clear in that washington post article is that his butler gave those documents over to the investigative reporter here in italy not as a way to hurt pope benedict but, rather, to show all the infighting and betrayal that goes -- that has gone on in the curia and that was an impediment to the reforms that benedict tried to put in place. the big focus of his papacy has been the re-evangilization to get catholics particularly in western europe and in north america excited again about their faith. to say anything that the next pope needs to clean house -- >> it's a communication strategy, something this pope hasn't had. andrea. >> ann thompson. >> for the tenth anniversary of the iraq war. it's been a decade, and tonight msnbc is air this documentary -- in this excerpt prosecute the film congress votes to give president bush the authority to launch a war against iraq when his secretary of state colin powell has the doubts on that war. >> joint resolution is passed
person after person that i have spoken to feels that the curia has really done a disservice to pope benedict xvi, and i think what was clear in that washington post article is that his butler gave those documents over to the investigative reporter here in italy not as a way to hurt pope benedict but, rather, to show all the infighting and betrayal that goes -- that has gone on in the curia and that was an impediment to the reforms that benedict tried to put in place. the big focus of his papacy...
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and pope benedict, this surprise resignatio resignation. you have to wonder what might be behind it, whether it's health issues or something else. mike barnicle joins us now with his thoughts. mike? >> a stunner. that's for sure. the church has obviously been in great controversy over the last several years, as joe just indicated. the abuse scandal that began here in the united states has spread throughout the world. this particular pope came into the papacy as pretty much the departed pope's successor, indicated he was very conservative, from germany. he was in charge of priests who had, you know, been charged with molesting kids throughout the world, not only in the united states. i don't know whether it's his health. nobody knows much more than we've just reported on this story right now. it's a stunning, stunning development. >> there had been reports earlier that he seemed exhausted, that he seemed out of touch and disconnected. but we'll be following this story throughout the morning, mika. big news, again, coming out of the vatican.
and pope benedict, this surprise resignatio resignation. you have to wonder what might be behind it, whether it's health issues or something else. mike barnicle joins us now with his thoughts. mike? >> a stunner. that's for sure. the church has obviously been in great controversy over the last several years, as joe just indicated. the abuse scandal that began here in the united states has spread throughout the world. this particular pope came into the papacy as pretty much the departed...
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. >>> an italian newspaper is out with a bombshell report on what it says is the reason pope benedict resigned. the daily paper says an internal report uncovered an underground gay network at the vatican much more could come from the paper. the newspaper says this is just the first in a series of reports. nbc's claudio lavania is here for us. what more did they disclose in this report? >> reporter: well, tamron, it is certainly well respected here in italy. the first or second biggest newspaper here in italy and usually good sources. well, what this paper is saying is that in that report, 300-page report of the internal vatican inquiry in to the scandal was so disturbing that pope benedict xvi decided to leave there and then and two months before the official abdication. it contained details about the inside of the vatican and lobbies that were -- it was power clashes of the lobbies that broke two, as a matter of fact, of the ten commandments. the first one, commandment number 6. thou shall not steal. that's a reference to the vatican bank accused of money laundering. well, also broke
. >>> an italian newspaper is out with a bombshell report on what it says is the reason pope benedict resigned. the daily paper says an internal report uncovered an underground gay network at the vatican much more could come from the paper. the newspaper says this is just the first in a series of reports. nbc's claudio lavania is here for us. what more did they disclose in this report? >> reporter: well, tamron, it is certainly well respected here in italy. the first or second...
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. >>> a huge turnout at the vatican today as pope benedict blessed the faithful overlooking st. peter's square. cardinals will vote for a successor. now we may see white smoke rising from the sistine chapel earlier than expected. >> reporter: alex, 50,000 people came to hear the pope. double the size from last week. this is the first pope in modern history to resign the post. he spoke in six languages and thanking them for prayers and support and adding in his german, that these were difficult days. the crowd in turn responded with respect and affection. in rome, where there is no shortage of must-see attractions, suddenly pope benedict is the main stay. this crowd was worthy of a rock star. his exit from his last public mass on ash wednesday turned churchgoers into paparazzi. the season of lent is now a celebration of the 85-year-old pontiff. the hottest ticket in town benedict's final audience on february 27th, the day before he steps down. 35,000 people have already requested free tickets says the vatican. but this extraordinary step creates an extraordinary problem. the chur
. >>> a huge turnout at the vatican today as pope benedict blessed the faithful overlooking st. peter's square. cardinals will vote for a successor. now we may see white smoke rising from the sistine chapel earlier than expected. >> reporter: alex, 50,000 people came to hear the pope. double the size from last week. this is the first pope in modern history to resign the post. he spoke in six languages and thanking them for prayers and support and adding in his german, that these...
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the hottest ticket in town, benedict's final audience on february 27th, the day before he steps down. 35,000 people have already requested free tickets, says the vatican. but this extraordinary step creates an extraordinary problem. the church will now have two living popes. >> there are lots of stories -- >> reporter: author george weigel is an nbc analyst. >> technically there are not two popes. he ceases to be pope at 8:00 p.m. february 28th. there has never been a bishop of rome for 1700 years. i think he will make that work because he will simply retire into the deep background and not be seen in public. >> reporter: in meeting with rome's priests benedict said once he steps down he will remain hidden from the home and will live in this renovated monastery and close to the new pope but no one expects him to be intrusive. >> he may speak his advice and may do something quietly. i think the pope going to the monastery is the pope going to the monastery. >> reporter: benedict as pope he was labelled god's rottweiler. throughout his papacy benedict showed a gentle pastoral side never
the hottest ticket in town, benedict's final audience on february 27th, the day before he steps down. 35,000 people have already requested free tickets, says the vatican. but this extraordinary step creates an extraordinary problem. the church will now have two living popes. >> there are lots of stories -- >> reporter: author george weigel is an nbc analyst. >> technically there are not two popes. he ceases to be pope at 8:00 p.m. february 28th. there has never been a bishop...
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now back to "hardball." ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict the former joseph ratzinger made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home cassell began dal foe for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pot he said, quote, that you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and the more than 1 billion catholics worldwide and soon more than 100 cardinals will meet in conclave to select a new pope and decide the future of the faith. george is our nbc news vatican analyst and tom roberts is managing editor of the national catholic reporter and author of "the emerging catholic church." george, you know, in american presidential politics, we always try to correct for the latest president. you know, we had truman who had too much of a kansas city problem so we brought in mr. clean eisenhower. we had nixon and ford so we brought in a guy who had never been involved in politics or been to washingt
now back to "hardball." ♪ >>> we're back. 85-year-old pope benedict the former joseph ratzinger made history today when he left the vatican in a helicopter from rome to the papal summer home cassell began dal foe for the first phase of his retirement. in his final tweet as pot he said, quote, that you for your love and support. may you always experience the joy that comes from putting christ at the center of your lives. his departure ushers in a new era for the church and...
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emeritus his holiness benedict xvi and wearing white but not a cape and not the famous red shoes that are typical of all popes. what it looks like, this has raised a few eyebrows because when he comes back here, two people addressed at holiness and you have to look down and watch out for the red shoes. tamron? >> thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. >>> and digging out from a record setting blizzard tops the look at news around the "news nation" today. at least three people killed in snow-related accidents. hurricane force winds in texas and snow drifts up to seven feet high. the snowfall broke the 100-year-old record in wichita, kansas. more than 100,000 customers are without power. >>> and new data shows the housing market recovering is accelerating, recovery is accelerating. new home sales in the u.s. jumped to the highest level in 4 1/2 years. experts say steady job creation and new record low mortgage rates are motivating people to buy homes. >>> and new questions about manty toe's life. he is hoped to be drafted but it's said that coaches and general managers want the kno
emeritus his holiness benedict xvi and wearing white but not a cape and not the famous red shoes that are typical of all popes. what it looks like, this has raised a few eyebrows because when he comes back here, two people addressed at holiness and you have to look down and watch out for the red shoes. tamron? >> thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. >>> and digging out from a record setting blizzard tops the look at news around the "news nation" today. at least...
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. >>> this week, pope benedict the xvith shocked the world with the announcement that on february 28th, he is going to become the first pontiff in nearly 600 years to step down as the leader of the catholic church. pope benedict's resignation c n coincides with the beginning of lent, the 40-day period of self-denial and repentance in which the catholics reflect on the teachings of christ. the pope will be replaced by the end of lent, and no later than easter sunday, so it is important that the cardinals tasked with finding a new pope and leader of faith. my next letter going to the pope. dear, cardinals, it is me, melissa. i remember being taught by a priest from south africa and i sat alongside people from south africa and i remember lay women from the north side of chicago and then i appreciated the global inclusiveness of the church and despite the differences we shared a genuine engagement of catholicism for social change. as you know, catholicism goes beyond those who hold the reins in vatican city, and the global body of 2.2 billion believers. as one of the most influential irns
. >>> this week, pope benedict the xvith shocked the world with the announcement that on february 28th, he is going to become the first pontiff in nearly 600 years to step down as the leader of the catholic church. pope benedict's resignation c n coincides with the beginning of lent, the 40-day period of self-denial and repentance in which the catholics reflect on the teachings of christ. the pope will be replaced by the end of lent, and no later than easter sunday, so it is important...
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now to the drama surrounding pope benedict. as they find his successor, the pope himself will not be playing a role. chris jan sising is live for us rome. >> there was a lot of speculation since we haven't had this happen since the middle ages. what would be the impact of having a living pope when a new hope was being chosen. the vatican heard that and premature criticisms. they did say that the pope plans to have nothing to do and exert no influence over the choice of the next pope. here's what we know about what the pope's schedule looks like. he will tomorrow have his regular wednesday audience. the first chance for the public to see him since he made the shocking decision to advocate. once he retires on the 28th, at the end of this month, he plans to go to casa gandolfo and come back to the vatican to what used to be a monstastery and go into quiet retirement. each though the top aides to the pope have known for months this would happen, they are just starting to have formal contact with cardinals who didn't know anything a
now to the drama surrounding pope benedict. as they find his successor, the pope himself will not be playing a role. chris jan sising is live for us rome. >> there was a lot of speculation since we haven't had this happen since the middle ages. what would be the impact of having a living pope when a new hope was being chosen. the vatican heard that and premature criticisms. they did say that the pope plans to have nothing to do and exert no influence over the choice of the next pope....
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on top of that, of course, we got told -- we were told by the spokesperson that pope benedict xvi accepted the resignation of cardinal o'brien. when we asked he was not allowed in to the conclave, he said that's not for the pope to decide, it is only a decision that a cardinal can take. cardinal o'brien did take that decision and made it public shortly afterwards and published a statement saying that he didn't want all the media attention on him and even offered his apologies to those he may have offended due to his failures. well, this sets an important precedent. i mean, never before a cardinal renounced to his right to participate in the conclave. the election of the new pontiff. the highest moment of any cardinal in the catholic church, of course, due to a scandal engulfing him. of course now all eyes on mahoney of los angeles. he's said that he will come to rome to vote anyway despite the scandal that engulfed him, accused of covering up abuses by priests. he was meant to oversee in the past. let's see if the cardinal's decision will change his mind. tamron? >> thank you, claudio. mor
on top of that, of course, we got told -- we were told by the spokesperson that pope benedict xvi accepted the resignation of cardinal o'brien. when we asked he was not allowed in to the conclave, he said that's not for the pope to decide, it is only a decision that a cardinal can take. cardinal o'brien did take that decision and made it public shortly afterwards and published a statement saying that he didn't want all the media attention on him and even offered his apologies to those he may...
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pope benedict xvi has given the cardinals permission to start up the date of the conclave. there will be one fewer cardinal in that conclave. keith o'brien, head of the church in scotland, has resigned after he was accused by three priests and a former priest of inappropriate behavior. let's bring in nbc news vatican analyst george michaels, senior fellow at the ethics and policy center. george, so more than 100,000 people turned out yesterday for the pope's pin am sunday blessing. but have you all this controversy out there. let's start with cardinal o'brien. this is a man who has been outspoken in his views against homosexuality and when there were calls for l.a.'s former cardinal to stay home from the conclave because of his role in protecting the abusive priests. here is what the cardinal said. >> if someone erred in some way or another that does not -- judgment and other matters. >> probably not exactly the statement that people would have wanted to hear from him. so he's decided to step down. was this the vatican pushing him out of the conclave? >> reporter: i think h
pope benedict xvi has given the cardinals permission to start up the date of the conclave. there will be one fewer cardinal in that conclave. keith o'brien, head of the church in scotland, has resigned after he was accused by three priests and a former priest of inappropriate behavior. let's bring in nbc news vatican analyst george michaels, senior fellow at the ethics and policy center. george, so more than 100,000 people turned out yesterday for the pope's pin am sunday blessing. but have you...
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pope benedict told the faithfuls he would not abandon the church. i understand there seems to be a new complication involving one of the key cardinals playing a role in choosing a new pope. tell us about the new wrinkle, if you will. >> reporter: it looks like a day doesn't go by without a cardinal being implicated into a scandal of sexual nature. we heard of cardinal mahoney of los angeles and sean brady of ireland being implicated of cover ups. today was the day of cardinal keith o'brien from scotland who is the highest cleric in the catholic church of britain. he is being accused by a number of priests, three priests and a former cleric of inappropriate conduct or inappropriate behavior that is believed to be of sexual nature about 30 years ago. the vatican hasn't reacted to those allegations that were made today. a source goes and says that the pope is being briefed about the new scandal this afternoon. in the meantime as it happened for cardinal mahoney and cardinal brady public opinions against these cardinals, all three including o'brien for
pope benedict told the faithfuls he would not abandon the church. i understand there seems to be a new complication involving one of the key cardinals playing a role in choosing a new pope. tell us about the new wrinkle, if you will. >> reporter: it looks like a day doesn't go by without a cardinal being implicated into a scandal of sexual nature. we heard of cardinal mahoney of los angeles and sean brady of ireland being implicated of cover ups. today was the day of cardinal keith...
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peter's square for pope benedict's final audience this morning, cheering and waving signs that read "thank you" in italian. anne thompson is live for us at the vatican. and anne, i know the pope gave a reason for why he's leaving. what did he share with the crowd? >> reporter: well, he told them, chuck, it was a very personal address during his final papal audience. usually those sermons are a lesson on religion, but he spoke quite eloquently about his eight years as pontiff and why he was stepping down. he said his eight years had been filled with joy and difficulty and he said at some times, he felt like the lord was sleeping during his eight years. he acknowledged, again, that the reason that he was stepping down was because of age. he fired back at his critics, as much as a pope will fire back, saying that, you know, the critics who said that the pope should not come down from the cross, he said, there are different ways to serve on the cross and that the life that he has chosen of prayer and meditation, that will begin thursday night, that is another way to serve the church. agai
peter's square for pope benedict's final audience this morning, cheering and waving signs that read "thank you" in italian. anne thompson is live for us at the vatican. and anne, i know the pope gave a reason for why he's leaving. what did he share with the crowd? >> reporter: well, he told them, chuck, it was a very personal address during his final papal audience. usually those sermons are a lesson on religion, but he spoke quite eloquently about his eight years as pontiff and...
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it was benedict's second-to-last public appearance as pope. he will make his final address on wednesday before stepping down from the papacy thursday evening. the first pope to do so in 600 years. but even in his final days as pope, benedict cannot escape the controversies that have consumed much of his tenure. this morning cardinal keith o'brien, the head of the church in scotland, has announced he will be stepping down amid accusations of inappropriate and intimate behavior with current and former priests. chris matthews, a little bit of reaction from you. >> it's bad. >> it keeps going, huh? >> i grew up in the catholic church. >> me, too. >> we didn't see any of this. we thought priests had given up on sex as part of the holy orders and gave up on money and sacrificed their lives. those were the priests we knew, we thought. now we see nothing but headlines of people who had no intention of doing that. they couldn't have. >> cover-up. >> and the cover-up and the attempt to make the church look good, and it has made it look terrible. >> chri
it was benedict's second-to-last public appearance as pope. he will make his final address on wednesday before stepping down from the papacy thursday evening. the first pope to do so in 600 years. but even in his final days as pope, benedict cannot escape the controversies that have consumed much of his tenure. this morning cardinal keith o'brien, the head of the church in scotland, has announced he will be stepping down amid accusations of inappropriate and intimate behavior with current and...
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the world just saw benedict xvi on that balcony window for the last time. what's the mood been there to y today? >> reporter: i think a lot of gratitude and also sadness to see him retire. but peoplens why he wants to retire. he's 85. he told the crowd that he's not going to abandon the church, alex. he said that in instead god has asked him to lave life of more prayer and meditation, and he says that's more appropriate for someone of his age and his strengths. >> yeah. you know, not to besmirch all this, but there were some reports circulating in some italian papers about blackmail being a reason why the pope was stepping down. how does the vatican address that? >> the vatican has come back very strongly against those reports, alex. they were in a paper called la republica this past week. and the vatican took the unusual step yesterday, the vatican secretary of state, of calling -- of issuing a statement calling the situation beplorable, accusing the news media of running false reports to try to influence the election of the next pope. and, in fact, the se
the world just saw benedict xvi on that balcony window for the last time. what's the mood been there to y today? >> reporter: i think a lot of gratitude and also sadness to see him retire. but peoplens why he wants to retire. he's 85. he told the crowd that he's not going to abandon the church, alex. he said that in instead god has asked him to lave life of more prayer and meditation, and he says that's more appropriate for someone of his age and his strengths. >> yeah. you know,...
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. >>> in america, a new poll out this week shows that pope benedict is well liked and the majority of emergency 64%, to be exact, support his unusual decision to abdicate next week, while considering a popular pope with the 54% favorability rating he is 13% less popular than his presses predecessor likability rating. not personally as popular, pope benedict xvi does have something on pope john paul ii, the catholic church experienced a 6% increase in favorability, up from 56% during pope john paul ii's tenure and that's what the survey says. >>> coming up, she beats out her husband in almost every popularity poll. now michelle obama is back on the road and we'll look at what the second term may hold for the first lady. >>> first, the latest from south africa on where the olympic star accused of murder is now a day after being released on bail. you're watching msnbc. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health
. >>> in america, a new poll out this week shows that pope benedict is well liked and the majority of emergency 64%, to be exact, support his unusual decision to abdicate next week, while considering a popular pope with the 54% favorability rating he is 13% less popular than his presses predecessor likability rating. not personally as popular, pope benedict xvi does have something on pope john paul ii, the catholic church experienced a 6% increase in favorability, up from 56% during...